Comments on: But I *want* the sugar! http://robwall.ca/2009/01/27/but-i-want-the-sugar/ Visitivity in the possimpible Fri, 23 Mar 2012 18:52:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Ian H. http://robwall.ca/2009/01/27/but-i-want-the-sugar/#comment-454 Ian H. Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:51:17 +0000 http://robwall.ca/?p=184#comment-454 Interesting study. Obviously money isn't a factor, because the fries now cost more than soup or salads, and students are still buying them. Another issue is funding - I know some schools that sell exclusive sales rights to a particular beverage in order to fund a scoreboard or some other upgrade. If school funding is an issue, how do you convince people that a property tax increase will be the result of banning junk food from schools? Interesting study. Obviously money isn’t a factor, because the fries now cost more than soup or salads, and students are still buying them.

Another issue is funding – I know some schools that sell exclusive sales rights to a particular beverage in order to fund a scoreboard or some other upgrade. If school funding is an issue, how do you convince people that a property tax increase will be the result of banning junk food from schools?

]]> By: Ian H. http://robwall.ca/2009/01/27/but-i-want-the-sugar/#comment-458 Ian H. Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:51:17 +0000 http://robwall.ca/?p=184#comment-458 Interesting study. Obviously money isn't a factor, because the fries now cost more than soup or salads, and students are still buying them. Another issue is funding - I know some schools that sell exclusive sales rights to a particular beverage in order to fund a scoreboard or some other upgrade. If school funding is an issue, how do you convince people that a property tax increase will be the result of banning junk food from schools? Interesting study. Obviously money isn’t a factor, because the fries now cost more than soup or salads, and students are still buying them.

Another issue is funding – I know some schools that sell exclusive sales rights to a particular beverage in order to fund a scoreboard or some other upgrade. If school funding is an issue, how do you convince people that a property tax increase will be the result of banning junk food from schools?

]]> By: Rob http://robwall.ca/2009/01/27/but-i-want-the-sugar/#comment-452 Rob Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:09:34 +0000 http://robwall.ca/?p=184#comment-452 @ian Interesting. I think that part of the reason for the choices students make is related to preferring certain kids of foods, but convenience might be an even more important factor. If opportunity is equal, yes they will go for the fries (so would I, for the record). But I was talking with a dietician friend last night and she said that some studies have been done on this topic. Yes, at first students went to the convenience store to get their junk food and vending machine sales were down, but after a few weeks the only students still going to the store were the ones who had been going there anyway. The other students had returned to the most convenient option. I'm not sure that would be true in all cases but it does suggest some thoughts on what the largest incentive for student food choices. @Morag I agree about removing the pop completely. And the Gatorade while they're at it - it's pretty much just overhyped, overpriced Kool Aid. I think part of the reason for my Coke craving was seeing the diet and zero cans in the vending machine. That made me think of the real Coke. Very Pavlovian of me, wasn't it? @ian Interesting. I think that part of the reason for the choices students make is related to preferring certain kids of foods, but convenience might be an even more important factor. If opportunity is equal, yes they will go for the fries (so would I, for the record). But I was talking with a dietician friend last night and she said that some studies have been done on this topic. Yes, at first students went to the convenience store to get their junk food and vending machine sales were down, but after a few weeks the only students still going to the store were the ones who had been going there anyway. The other students had returned to the most convenient option. I’m not sure that would be true in all cases but it does suggest some thoughts on what the largest incentive for student food choices.

@Morag I agree about removing the pop completely. And the Gatorade while they’re at it – it’s pretty much just overhyped, overpriced Kool Aid. I think part of the reason for my Coke craving was seeing the diet and zero cans in the vending machine. That made me think of the real Coke. Very Pavlovian of me, wasn’t it?

]]> By: Rob http://robwall.ca/2009/01/27/but-i-want-the-sugar/#comment-456 Rob Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:09:34 +0000 http://robwall.ca/?p=184#comment-456 @ian Interesting. I think that part of the reason for the choices students make is related to preferring certain kids of foods, but convenience might be an even more important factor. If opportunity is equal, yes they will go for the fries (so would I, for the record). But I was talking with a dietician friend last night and she said that some studies have been done on this topic. Yes, at first students went to the convenience store to get their junk food and vending machine sales were down, but after a few weeks the only students still going to the store were the ones who had been going there anyway. The other students had returned to the most convenient option. I'm not sure that would be true in all cases but it does suggest some thoughts on what the largest incentive for student food choices. @Morag I agree about removing the pop completely. And the Gatorade while they're at it - it's pretty much just overhyped, overpriced Kool Aid. I think part of the reason for my Coke craving was seeing the diet and zero cans in the vending machine. That made me think of the real Coke. Very Pavlovian of me, wasn't it? @ian Interesting. I think that part of the reason for the choices students make is related to preferring certain kids of foods, but convenience might be an even more important factor. If opportunity is equal, yes they will go for the fries (so would I, for the record). But I was talking with a dietician friend last night and she said that some studies have been done on this topic. Yes, at first students went to the convenience store to get their junk food and vending machine sales were down, but after a few weeks the only students still going to the store were the ones who had been going there anyway. The other students had returned to the most convenient option. I’m not sure that would be true in all cases but it does suggest some thoughts on what the largest incentive for student food choices.

@Morag I agree about removing the pop completely. And the Gatorade while they’re at it – it’s pretty much just overhyped, overpriced Kool Aid. I think part of the reason for my Coke craving was seeing the diet and zero cans in the vending machine. That made me think of the real Coke. Very Pavlovian of me, wasn’t it?

]]> By: Morag http://robwall.ca/2009/01/27/but-i-want-the-sugar/#comment-453 Morag Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:06:25 +0000 http://robwall.ca/?p=184#comment-453 I noticed this when I was at my last in-service at NBCHS. I broke down and bought a Coke Zero too, although I had given up artificial sweetener over a year ago. What is worse sugar or artificial sweetener? I think if they're going 'healthy' then they should get rid of all pop. Just my 2 cents. I noticed this when I was at my last in-service at NBCHS. I broke down and bought a Coke Zero too, although I had given up artificial sweetener over a year ago. What is worse sugar or artificial sweetener? I think if they’re going ‘healthy’ then they should get rid of all pop. Just my 2 cents.

]]> By: Morag http://robwall.ca/2009/01/27/but-i-want-the-sugar/#comment-457 Morag Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:06:25 +0000 http://robwall.ca/?p=184#comment-457 I noticed this when I was at my last in-service at NBCHS. I broke down and bought a Coke Zero too, although I had given up artificial sweetener over a year ago. What is worse sugar or artificial sweetener? I think if they're going 'healthy' then they should get rid of all pop. Just my 2 cents. I noticed this when I was at my last in-service at NBCHS. I broke down and bought a Coke Zero too, although I had given up artificial sweetener over a year ago. What is worse sugar or artificial sweetener? I think if they’re going ‘healthy’ then they should get rid of all pop. Just my 2 cents.

]]> By: Ian H. http://robwall.ca/2009/01/27/but-i-want-the-sugar/#comment-451 Ian H. Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:06:51 +0000 http://robwall.ca/?p=184#comment-451 I thought there was a recent survey showing that students' pop drinking does not decrease when pop is removed from the school? Our caf went to salads or soups as a side for the specials (replacing fries) last year, but most students still pony up the extra for french fries... they're teens - what can you do? I thought there was a recent survey showing that students’ pop drinking does not decrease when pop is removed from the school?

Our caf went to salads or soups as a side for the specials (replacing fries) last year, but most students still pony up the extra for french fries… they’re teens – what can you do?

]]> By: Ian H. http://robwall.ca/2009/01/27/but-i-want-the-sugar/#comment-455 Ian H. Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:06:51 +0000 http://robwall.ca/?p=184#comment-455 I thought there was a recent survey showing that students' pop drinking does not decrease when pop is removed from the school? Our caf went to salads or soups as a side for the specials (replacing fries) last year, but most students still pony up the extra for french fries... they're teens - what can you do? I thought there was a recent survey showing that students’ pop drinking does not decrease when pop is removed from the school?

Our caf went to salads or soups as a side for the specials (replacing fries) last year, but most students still pony up the extra for french fries… they’re teens – what can you do?

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